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I have a bad podcast about this. Pranks Paul, James D'Amato, Kat Kuhl, and Johnny O'Mara take a deep dive into Star Wars on behalf of wide-eyed new fans and longtime experts alike. nevertellmethepods.com
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I have a bad podcast about this.

May 21, 2016

Here's a handy list of all the critters we talk about this week.

Nickname, Species Name, (Individual Name)

“Hammerhead”, Ithorian, (Momaw Nadon)

“Walrus Man”, Aqualish, (Ponda Baba)

“Squid Head”, Quarren, (Tessek)

“Prune Face”, Dressellian, (Orimaarko)

“Yak Face”, Yarkora, (Saelt-Marae)

“Snaggletooth”, Snivvian, (Zutton)

List of Pigs in Space

  1. Snivvians
  2. Gamorreans
  3. Ugnaughts
  4. Puffer Pigs
  5. Happabores
  6. Jablogians

Here are pictures of Luke, Yoda, Piggy, and Kermit hanging out.

http://www.avclub.com/article/empire-strikes-back-set-photos-show-luke-yoda-hang-214615

May 14, 2016

This week, we review Claudia Gray's novel Bloodline.  In the interest of full disclosure, Del Rey sent us a review copy, which Kat and I read.  Johnny bought his own, and James volunteered not to read it so we could keep the discussion accessible.  James is a real trooper.

No annotations this week, because we mostly discuss a single book.  The baseball player to whom we refer in this episode is Sean Conroy.

You can catch more Johnny O'Mara, James D'Amato, and Kat Kuhl on the Campaign Podcast at www.oneshotpodcast.com/category/campaign/

Opening and closing music by @samuraiguit.  Logo by @JasonBaesel.  Send questions, comments, and tips to @roguetldr on Twitter.

 

Somebody has to save our skins.

May 7, 2016

The gang talks about their earliest Star Wars memories, and we discuss the mysterious Force Planet, Mortis.

Be warned: this will contain spoilers for the Season 2 finale of Star Wars Rebels.

http://nevertellmethepods.com/ntmtp-8-annotations

You can catch more Johnny O'Mara, James D'Amato, and Kat Kuhl on the Campaign Podcast at www.oneshotpodcast.com/category/campaign/

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Opening and closing music by @samuraiguit.  Logo by @JasonBaesel.  Send questions, comments, and tips to @roguetldr on Twitter.

 

You were the chosen one!

May 7, 2016

The Star Wars Adventure Journal was a publication by West End Games that featured supplementary material and short stories for their Star Wars Roleplaying Game, sometimes referred to as Star Wars d6.

Star Wars Missions are actually what I believe James was talking about -- they were sort of a mix of choose-your-own adventure books and baby tabletop adventures published for younger children through Scholastic.  We're going to get our hands on one of them and play them in a future episode.  I have foreseen it.

Brian was a kid I knew when I was 7 or 8 years old.

The Clone Wars: Legacy were a few story arcs of Clone Wars that were unproduced when the show ended.  Some have been uploaded on YouTube with unfinished animatics, but full voice acting.  If you can get past the dead-eyed, bug-eyed versions of the characters and the missing backgrounds, they're pretty fun.  But they are not good things to show to children, no matter what Human Monster James D'Amato says.  One arc was turned into the new canon novel Dark Disciple, and another was turned into the comic Darth Maul: Son of Dathomir.

Zonama Sekot is a living planet encountered by multiple Skywalkers in Legends stories.  It can also jump through hyperspace, not unlike the Purgill.

The Father, Son and Daughter are three mysterious beings that Anakin and company encounter in the Clone Wars show that represent (we think) the Cosmic Force, the Dark Side, and the Light Side.  We do our best to explain them, but it's all very wishy washy.

 

Apr 30, 2016

This week, we are joined by our first guest, Michael Ben Silva III.

We recorded remotely this week, so there might be a few clicks and buzzes.  (We blame our podcasting droid, Emperor Podpatine.)

http://nevertellmethepods.com/ntmtp-7-annotations

You can catch more Johnny O'Mara, James D'Amato, and Kat Kuhl on the Campaign Podcast at www.oneshotpodcast.com/category/campaign/

Opening and closing music by @samuraiguit.  Logo by @JasonBaesel.  Edited by Rook Parthum.  Send questions, comments, and tips to @roguetldr on Twitter.

 

It's against my programming to impersonate a deity.

Apr 30, 2016

Try This One Wild Theory By George Lucas: http://io9.gizmodo.com/george-lucas-wild-theory-about-the-narrator-of-star-war-1772296162

Correction: Artoo isn't on Takodana in The Force Awakens; he's on the Rebel base on D'Qar.  Sorry about that.

Star Wars Special: C-3PO: The Phantom Limb is a Marvel comic that explains Threepio's new red arm.  It is surprisingly tragic, as we explain.

Chopper or C1-10P is one of the stars of the animated series Star Wars Rebels.  Dave Filoni describes him as the "cat" to Artoo-Detoo's "dog."  He is usually fairly unpleasant, but some of us think he has his reasons.

HK-47 is a beloved droid from the Knights of the Old Republic series of video games.  He frequently refers to organics as meatbags, and prefaces his dialogue with "Statement," "Query," or "Affirmation," etc. as appropriate.  He's the best.

AP-5 or Snapebot or Alan Rickmanbot is a droid that appears in a recent episode of Star Wars Rebels and befriends Chopper.  His voice was an intentional homage to the late Alan Rickman.

We never talked about it in the episode, but both Omri (Threepio's friend from his comic) and AP-5 are RA-7 model droids.  Huh.  Interesting.

Triple-Zero is an evil version of See-Threepio who is programmed in over six million forms of torture.  He appears in the Darth Vader comic with his counter-part, the assassin droid known as Bee-Tee.

IG-88 is one of the bounty hunters hired by Darth Vader to capture the Millennium Falcon in The Empire Strikes Back.  He is an independent assassin droid.

4-LOM is another droid who is one of the bounty hunters hired by Vader, and he's also masterless.  He's partners with Gand Findsman / Legends schizophrenic Zuckuss.

B-1 Battle Droids (or as I call them, "Rogers") are the hapless minions of the Trade Federation and later, the Confederacy.  They are treated as utterly disposable by everyone.

TAY was a Twitterbot created by Microsoft that the internet ruined.  http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/24/11297050/tay-microsoft-chatbot-racist

The fan theory Johnny mentioned (that we also discussed in Episode 5) is here: http://km-515.livejournal.com/746.html

Did you all do the homework Kat assigned you?  If so, tweet it to us, or post it in the subreddit at r/oneshotpodcast/

Apr 23, 2016

Kind of light on references this week.  (Which is funny considering the subject matter.)

Sorry about the audio difficulty this week.  Our mikes decided to be wacky.

 

Annotations: http://nevertellmethepods.com/ntmtp-6-annotations


You can catch more Johnny O'Mara, James D'Amato, and Kat Kuhl on the Campaign Podcast at www.oneshotpodcast.com/category/campaign/

Opening and closing music by @samuraiguit.  Logo by @JasonBaesel.  Edited by Rook Parthum.  Send questions, comments, and tips to @roguetldr on Twitter.

 

UNLIMITED POWAH.

 

Apr 23, 2016

Kind of light on references this week.  (Which is funny considering the subject matter.)

Sorry about the audio difficulty this week.  Our mikes decided to be wacky.

 

Here's a picture of the disclaimer that sent me down this Lepi-hole:

https://twitter.com/roguetldr/status/723691560135577600

Here is the Atlantic article that we are discussing:

http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2016/04/enough-with-the-true-canon/477837/

Here's the picture of Kanan and Hera that Kat's talking about:

https://twitter.com/roguetldr/status/723690143777857536

Apr 16, 2016

We’ve been kicking around the idea of putting together a reading guide for a while. Here it is!  These may not necessarily be our favorite works, but they are probably the best things to start with if you’re a fan who has already seen the movies.

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New Canon

Best Novel: Lost Stars by Claudia Gray

My overwhelming pick for best new canon novel is Lost Stars by Claudia Gray.  Perfect for fans of the OT, but not particularly continuity-heavy in terms of callbacks to Legends. This novel follows two star-crossed lovers on opposite sides of the Galactic Civil War.

Setting: 0-5 ABY (Episodes IV-VI)

Best Television Show: The Clone Wars (2008)

If you only watch one Star Wars television show, I would have to go with Clone Wars.  Rebels is great, but builds heavily upon the continuity established by the prior show.  Clone Wars deepens the relationships between Anakin and Obi-Wan, and introduces a crucial Star Wars character to audiences -- Ahsoka Tano, Anakin’s headstrong Padawan.  I endorse this (https://atthebuzzershow.com/2015/02/27/the-essential-ahsoka-list/) list of Ahsoka-centric episodes, but I implore you to power through the early stuff.  Like a lot of media that’s worth it (Avatar: TLA, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Parks and Recreation), it takes some time to find its footing.

Setting: 22-19 BBY (between Episodes II and III)

Best Comic: Darth Vader by Kieron Gillen

There’s nothing in current Star Wars comics that is necessarily a game-changer on the scale of current Star Wars TV, but the top pick for best new canon comic series is the superlative Darth Vader by Kieron Gillen.  Like the Sith Lord himself, it is equal parts tragic and terrifying.

Setting: 0ABY (after Episode IV)

Best Short Story Collection: Before the Awakening by Greg Rucka

If you read only one short story collection, go with Before the Awakening.  This collection features Finn, Rey, and Poe’s antics before Episode VII.  There’s a lot of cute stuff and great character moments in here, but it’s worth it just to learn more about the stormtrooper the Internet calls TR-8R.  (For the record, his “real” name is FN-2199).

Setting: 34ish ABY (just before Episode VII)

Best Video Game: Star Wars Battlefront (2015)

Frankly, the new canon landscape is a bit thin when it comes to video games.  If you only play one, it should probably be Battlefront.

Setting: 0-5 ABY (~Episodes IV-VI)

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Legends

If you’re interested in dipping your two into the vast sea of content that is Legends, we recommend that you start with the five works below.

Best Novel: Revenge of the Sith by Matthew Stover

If you only read one novel in Legends, make it the Revenge of the Sith adaptation by Matthew Stover.  I can’t say enough good things about it, and it’s pretty light on required EU knowledge..  The only thing wrong with it is that it came out before the creation of Ahsoka Tano.

Setting: 19 BBY (Episode III)

Best Television Show: Star Wars: Clone Wars (2003)

When it comes to television, the animated Genndy Tartakovsky Clone Wars series has the most badass depictions of Jedi in all of Star Wars.  And it’s just fun.  It was replaced by the CGI Clone Wars in new canon, though some elements (like Asajj Ventress) made it back in.

Setting: 23-19 BBY (between Episodes II and III)

Best Comic: Star Wars: The Thrawn Trilogy adapted by Mike Baron

I am cheating viciously here, and Thrawn would be proud.  If you only read one comic, make it the comic adaptation of the Thrawn trilogy.

Setting: 9 ABY (Five years after Episode VI)

Best Short Story Collection: Tales of the Bounty Hunters edited by Kevin J. Anderson

As a standalone collection, Tales of the Bounty Hunters is an excellent introduction to the fearsome cabal we see Vader send after the Falcon in Episode V.  My personal favorites are the IG-88 and Zuckuss stories.

Setting: variously, 0-4 ABY (Episodes IV-VI)

Best Video Game: Knights of the Old Republic 2

I love the X-Wing games, the Dark Forces series, and Shadows of the Empire but not picking one of the KotORs would be a disservice.  Between the two, I’d say go with Knights of the Old Republic 2.  Even if I prefer KotOR 1, there are a lot of story elements and settings that pop up again in Clone Wars and Rebels, and KotOR 2 is a much more complex, philosophical story.

Setting: approximately 3951 BBY

Apr 13, 2016

Hello moof-milkers,

Unfortunately, scheduling conflicts kept us from recording an episode this week.  We do plan on recording next week, but in the meantime, I’ve fielded a few questions from Twitter from some friends and fans.  My responses are below.

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Austin asks: Are you worried at all about Colin Trevorrow directing Episode IX?

A qualified “No.” It’s qualified, because I am of the belief that it will be nearly impossible to meet fan expectations by the time IX rolls around anyway.  My prediction is that VIII is going to be the weird, somewhat inaccessible critical darling, and then IX will bring more mainstream audiences back.  Colin Trevorrow is a decent, safe choice.  If IX is the Return of the Jedi of the sequel trilogy, then so be it. Frankly, my excitement is more focused on Rogue One at the moment, while my dread is saved for the Han Solo spin-off.

I saw Jurassic World, and had no strong feelings about it beyond some sequel fatigue. IX may sink or float depending on the strength of the dialogue and the performances, just as its predecessors.

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Dan asks: Who is your favorite character from The Force Awakens and why is it captain Sidon Ithano?

Image result for sidon ithano

Ah, Sidon Ithano, alias ‘The Crimson Corsair.’  His name is almost as fun as his concept. I’ll admit he’s not my favorite character from TFA, but he is definitely my favorite background character.  (I still can’t choose which of the new Power Trio is my favorite.)  You guys might recognize Ithano as the red-masked dude who Finn signs up with in Maz’s castle in The Force Awakens before he has his change of heart.

This Mask of the Red Death has a catchy nom de guerre, an awesome peg-legged first mate named Quiggold, and a devil-may-care attitude.  His mask is Delphinian --  comparable to the one worn by noted prequel monster General Grievous.  

But the real reason I have so much fondness for the guy is the excellent short story by Landry Q. Walker: “The Crimson Corsair and the Lost Treasure of Count Dooku."  Go check it out.  You won’t regret it.

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Evin asks: How much pre-OT EU Jedi business was there before the prequels existed?  How deeply canon was the council? Coruscant? The temples? All that rigamarole and hierarchy?

Coruscant

The name “Coruscant” comes from the 1991 Legends novel Heir to the Empire.  Lucas liked the name and kept it in the prequels.  (We’re lucky he didn’t go with the 1976-era name for the Imperial Capital, Had Abaddon.)

The Jedi

A few weeks back, an old West End Games writing guide was making the rounds.  West End Games used to publish the d6 Star Wars roleplaying system, and in the days before the Thrawn trilogy, it and the Marvel Star Wars comics were basically the big games in town as far as the Expanded Universe.  The reason I mention this writing guide is because it contains a prohibition on discussing anything that preceded the Original Trilogy.  And for the longest time, people followed this rule, which made finding sources about the Old Republic Jedi difficult.  http://io9.gizmodo.com/the-secrets-of-writing-good-star-wars-according-to-wes-1765739282

As far as hierarchy goes -- though the word “Padawan” never appeared in the original trilogy, George Lucas used it in the original story treatments for what would become A New Hope.

One example of pre-prequel Jedi history is from the 1979 Marvel Star Wars #24 -- it depicts Obi-Wan during the Clone Wars.  Keep in mind this preceded even The Empire Strikes Back!  (Obi-Wan isn’t wearing anything remotely like his Tatooine robes.  Back then, no one assumed he’d be “in hiding” dressed like all the other Jedi.  Return of the Jedi depicted Anakin Skywalker in similar robes to Old Obi-Wan, and then the prequels showed all the Jedi in variations of the same.)

Image result for obi-wan star wars 24

http://starwars77-80.blogspot.com/2011/02/this-ones-interesting-issue.html

As we may have mentioned, The Courtship of Princess Leia (1994) version of Yoda used to tool around in a Jedi training ship in his younger days, and he was a huge flirt.  It doesn’t tell us a lot about the Council, other than that Jedi used to cruise around in Academy ships.

The 1995 novel I, Jedi got around the problem of what the deal was with the Jedi Council by simply saying the Corellian Jedi were special snowflakes anyway, and rarely listened to the Council.  All that being said, I, Jedi showed Knights are more autonomous agents in general.

In the 1995 Children of the Jedi, Luke meets an Old-Republic era Jedi whose ghost is trapped in the computer of a starship. She mentions that she had a boyfriend when she was a flesh-and-blood Jedi, which is weird in and of itself.  A future Clone Wars era novel retcons this by explaining that they were an offshoot Jedi sect.

I considered including the 1995/1997 Jedi Knight / Jedi Knight II games in this response, but I kind of want to talk about those in future episode, so I’ll leave it alone for now.  (This list isn’t meant to be exhaustive. I have a day job, and this is mostly just what came to mind.)

That should hopefully start answering your question of how much info there was about the Jedi pre-1999?  Overall, the answer is “not much.”

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Livi asks: Have any of you read the first issue of the poe dameron comic and if so what did you think?

I read it.  Oscar Isaac is a comically handsome man, even in print.  (That pun was accidental, I swear.)

I’m a fan of Charles Soule’s other Star Wars work, and this has some nice callbacks to other new canon material, like Aftermath and Before the Awakening.  If you like fighter-jock action, I’d say it’s worth picking up.

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Clint O. ‏asks: I've been rereading the xwing books, so I was wondering which books made you tear up while reading? (Phanan, nooo)

There are moments in nearly every Wraith Squadron book that cause feelings to happen inside me.  The whole Lara Notsil saga, Piggy, Runt, Phanan, and even Chulku get me.  Those books are amazing.  But I think Mercy Kill is the most emotional.

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Michael Ben Silvaasks: Is Anakin the only character played by more than one actor on film? Aging is bananas in SW, but 4 actors is too many actors.  I thought about Obi-Wan already FYI but that doesn't feel like the same issue I guess?

Off the top of my head, Luke and Leia were played by babies in Revenge of the Sith, Artoo and Chewie were different people for some scenes in TFA (and Artoo had a few operators over time), Mon Mothma was played by Genevieve O’Reilly in a deleted scene of Revenge of the Sith (and now in Rogue One), and Wedge changes actors between scenes in A New Hope.  In the original cut of The Empire Strikes Back, the Emperor was played by a woman with a chimpanzee’s eyes superimposed on top of the shot.  

There are probably a few more I’ve overlooked.

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Karen Joseph asks: Was there ever 2+ post-Bane Sith pairs at a given time? Like they were all so secretive that neither knew the other was there?

If your question is about whether there were two Sith pairs (Master and Apprentice) that coexisted secretly, the answer is no.

However, depending on how you count Maul + Opress, Dooku + Ventress, and Dooku + Sidious, there were multiple Sith pairs existing during the Clone Wars.


Legends also featured an entire lost tribe of Sith that remained unknown to the galaxy for thousands of years.

This is a tough question to answer, because it's unclear what "counts" as a legitimate Sith pair.

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